#JULYER made these nice, lives, warm pants. They do run slightly big, maybe a whole size. I ordered the XL, but they were too big + definitely too long. Short people keep in mind, they are long and where they're supposed to be a flare leg having them hemmed wouldn't really be an option since the flare wouldn't be there and it wouldn't hit the right spot. otherwise these are great quality I wish they would have fit.